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kalgani:
Hab ich noch nie so gespielt...

aber das gilt auch nur für "touch" und nicht für "ranged touch" richtig?

als beispiel: vampiric touch kann ich halten, scorching ray nicht, richtig?


--- Zitat von: d20pfsrd ---Touch Spells in Combat

Many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll.

Touch Attacks: Touching an opponent with a touch spell is considered to be an armed attack and therefore does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The act of casting a spell, however, does provoke an attack of opportunity. Touch attacks come in two types: melee touch attacks and ranged touch attacks. You can score critical hits with either type of attack as long as the spell deals damage. Your opponent's AC against a touch attack does not include any armor bonus, shield bonus, or natural armor bonus. His size modifier, Dexterity modifier, and deflection bonus (if any) all apply normally.

Holding the Charge: If you don't discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren't considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.

Ranged Touch Spells in Combat: Some spells allow you to make a ranged touch attack as part of the casting of the spell. These attacks are made as part of the spell and do not require a separate action. Ranged touch attacks provoke an attack of opportunity, even if the spell that causes the attacks was cast defensively. Unless otherwise noted, ranged touch attacks cannot be held until a later turn (see FAQ below for more information.)

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Schwertwal:
Jap.

kalgani:
gilt das auch für touch spells die ich mit reach spell modifiziert habe?

Narubia:

--- Zitat von: kalgani am  6.03.2015 | 10:23 ---gilt das auch für touch spells die ich mit reach spell modifiziert habe?
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Nein.

Feuersänger:
Das steht so explizit nicht im PFSRD, aber man kann es sich erschließen. Welche Zauber erfordern von vorneherein einen Ranged Touch? Antwort: Rays. Und Rays werden geschossen wie ein Pfeil (nur mit fixer Reichweite eben) und sind dann weg.

BTW, in der 3.5er-Version von Reach Spell steht auch ausdrücklich drin, dass der Zauber effektiv zu einem Ray wird.

Dass man es mit Touch Spells mehrmals versuchen kann, bis man getroffen hat, ist halt so der kleine Bonus dafür, dass man im Nahkampf steht. Wenn man auf Entfernung kämpft, braucht man dafür nicht noch einen Bonus zu bekommen.

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