Bei manchen Werten kann man das Dualitätsprinzip aus dem RPG übernehmen:
Deckzusammensetzung
Wenn Holistic kein offizielles OK gibt, können wir die Symbole verwenden?
Na ja, wir müßten wenigstens die Druckkosten wieder reinbringen...
Als Quartett bezeichnet man ein Kartenspiel, dessen Ziel es ist, möglichst viele Sätze von vier zusammengehörigen Karten (Quartette) zu bilden.
Klassisches Quartett
Zunächst werden sämtliche Karten gemischt und verteilt, anschließend kann der erste Spieler von einem beliebigen Mitspieler eine ihm fehlende Karte erfragen. Hat der Angesprochene die gewünschte Karte, muss er sie dem Frager abgeben.
Der Spieler, der an der Reihe ist, kann so lange fragen, bis der Angesprochene eine geforderte Karte nicht besitzt. Anschließend ist der erfolglos angesprochene Spieler selbst an der Reihe. Sobald ein Spieler ein Quartett zusammen gesammelt hat, legt er dieses ab. Sieger ist der Spieler, der am Ende die meisten Quartette gesammelt hat.
Quartette mit Werten
Bei dieser Quartett-Variante sind auf die Karten jeweils verschiedene Wertangaben gedruckt (bei Autos z.B. Leistung, Hubraum, Geschwindigkeit). Die Gruppierung in Quartette ist für diese Version nicht von Belang. Auch hier werden die Karten gemischt und gleichmäßig verteilt. Jeder Spieler hält seine Karten so, dass er nur das oberste Blatt sehen kann.
Der Startspieler wählt einen belieben der Werte auf der obersten Karte aus und sagt ihn an. Die Mitspieler vergleichen diesen mit dem entsprechenden Wert auf ihrer Karte. Der Spieler mit dem höchsten Wert in dieser Rubrik bekommt die Karten der Mitspieler. Sieger ist der Spieler, der am Ende alle Karten gesammelt hat.
Hab mal eben nach einer kurzen Spielregel gesucht und wurde bei Wikipedia fündig:
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bei einer Auflage von 500 Stück
Wir sollten uns allmählich auch mal Gedanken machen, wer was macht- welche Charaktere wir abbilden, welche Werte sie bekommen usw.
I agree with whatever people have been saying ;)
Der Imperator und 4 Berater.
Is there some idea/decision I need to know or will everything be crystal clear for me from now on?
I actually have no idea how you have imagined this card game. Will there for example be cards with famous places, holy relics or reknown items that has something to do with the Emperor and his knights?
Hmm, a Patriarch card... good idea ;-) That could lead us to a "royal" set with five major characters, including Alexius, the Patriarch, the Leaguemeister plus... let's see, how about a Vau ambassador? Each of them would have the highest possible rank in one stat, e.g. Alexius --> Glory, Patriarch --> Lore, Leaguemeister --> Tech etc.
BTW, which stats make sense for the characters? My proposal was Ruhm (Glory), Quest (Accomplished tasks for the Empire, e.g. rediscovering a Lost World), Kampf (Fight), Wissen (Lore) und Rang (Rank). Tech could also be a comparable stat, with a clear advantage for the guildmembers, though ;-)
Since this card game is the work of Alexius and should primarily deal with characters belonging to the Order of the Phoenix, should the Questing Knights be far superior compared to the Cohorts. I think the role of the cohorts, in that case, should be to support/enhance the Questing Knights. And what would cards of other factions do, like aliens, Brother Battle and other non-Phoenix characters?
Nah... the Empire wouldn't dare to print a trading card of the Patriarch
So who'd like to design what?
Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- Etyri
- middle-of-the-road avesti ;)
- Muster
what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
instead of the Avesti? The BB might tolerate it barely.
And please, no Etyri (as a biologist: the way they are pictured & the different races are ridiculous. The concept of their philosophy & religion is nice, though. It works if you would shape their body like the Sung in 2300AD).
What about a Shantor with half plasteel armour & swivel turret equipped with two blaster cannons >:D on the back?
Hazat
- Knight
- Brother Battle
- Etyri
- middle-of-the-road avesti ;)
- Muster
Obs! Quoting did go wrong:
what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
And please, no Etyri
What about a Shantor?
what about a dervish?
(The Hazat use(d) them heavily)
instead of the Avesti? The BB might tolerate it barely.
Ah, Decados need no priests... *g*
Never mind: Here is the pic i made:
Nice pics guys :)
Does it matter what cohorts I draw to the Hawkwood?
I would like to draw an Obun (since if any house should have an Ubun then it is the Hawkwoods), a Reeve, a Muster and an Eskatonic
What`s about the Muster? I can`t find any Muster membership in a cohort. A Muster could be fit in the al-Malik Group.
I would like to draw an Obun (...), a Reeve, a Muster and an Eskatonic
I think i'd be more consistent to draw each set in one style.
If you have any comments about something you feel should be changed, please comment :)
Is there any way to put pictures directly in a message (sorry if this is a stupid question)?
Had some time today & made the Decados knight.
Oh, that brings me to a point... I've noticed that all of you use the PC for coloring the artwork; remember that it's all RGB and that colors might change a little when the drawings are converted and printed on CMYK. Use your printer to cross-check the colors on your monitor and the print-out.
Well done, brother from the Far North... ;-) But remember that we decided to use full body drawings...
BTW..... why on earth did I agree on drawing a Vorox...? *sigh*
Here's a recolored version of the Amalthean Field Medic (http://www.fadingsuns.de/markus/AeonFieldMedic_V2.jpg). I had to promote him so he is entitled to wear white robes.
Well, here's my sketch for the Li Halan knight....
The staff like thing in his right hand looks a bit strange, though.Hmm, yup- should be a spear-like weapon, but the blade didn't fit on the paper ;-) Perhaps I'll change it to a drawn sword or something like that.
The staff like thing in his right hand looks a bit strange, though.Hmm, yup- should be a spear-like weapon, but the blade didn't fit on the paper ;-) Perhaps I'll change it to a drawn sword or something like that.
May this humble advice not be misunderstood as a critique ;)Ah, no problem ;-) Considering the sketch after a night's sleep I agree with that. ;-)
If anathomy is an issue: The feet of the the Avesti priestess are very small. To look more natural, they should at least have the same size as the Avestine's hands.
A bow- perfect solution ;-) THX, Managarmr.
Here's the Avesti...
http://www.byzantiumsecundus.com/avestine.jpg
A bow is cool! A fourth sword would have been a *litte* much for one single Li Halan swordsman ;).Pah! One can never have enough swords... ;-)
btw: am i wrong, or is it a lightsaber on her belt? ~;D
Pah! One can never have enough swords... ;-)
So what do you think of the pics? What can be improved (as far as the lineart is concerned)? Is the choice of characters appropriate? Do I need to change something?Well done Max, but I'd suggest a little less detail, for too many lines may be a little confusing.
And a general question: Are all important factions covered? Maybe its just me, but I lost track of which character excatly everybody is drawing. Is the following (incomplete) list correct?
Decados + Engineer, Kossac, Ascorbite and Psion
Hawkwood + Escatonic, Reeve, Charioteer and Obun
Hazat + Scraver, Almalthean, Charioteer and Dervish
LiHalan + Avestit, Orthodox, Vorox and ???
alMalik + Engineer, Scraver, Ukar and ???
That means there is no Muster and no Brother Battle!?
@Enkidi: I think your characters are awesome! Very expressive. I like the way you do the robes and clothing, too! How are you planning to color your pics? From your earlier post I gathered you do not want to use digital coloring?!
@ Azzurayelos: I like your Almalthean without the bag best. But you might want to recolor the shoulder pads or the breather mask. Personally, I thought the character to be more interesting with some more color. White is great but I think at the moment it is too much.
feel free to poke me in the eye on ICQ,*g* I'll take care of that...
Li Halan:
- Knight
- Orthodox Priest
- Charioteer
- Vorox
- ?
Hawkwood
- Knight
- Amalthean Priest
- Charioteer
- Reeve
- Obun
Have you a design for the back of the Cards?Nope, not yet. I'll have some free time tomorrow, so I'll try another card design.
Hazat -- Markus -- Sketches: 0 -- Colored: 5 -- done
But if we want to make it in time for Essen 04, the current versions will probably have to do :(.
hey, just another reason for a second edition of the "questing knights cards game"!!! ;)
Is there a realistic chance that we can finish the project within one month? The game fair starts Oct. 21st.
The hand holding them belongs to Kathy ;-)
The other fotos will be online as soon as the report ist done, but if you can't wait that long I can send them to you ;-)
hey, great. someone should post it at the HDi forums to show the people out there what fandome can do for its favourite game!You are pleased to do so if you like.
Right.The hand holding them belongs to Kathy ;-)hmm... the jeans and the belly too, i suppose? ::) ;D
hey, great. someone should post it at the HDi forums to show the people out there what fandome can do for its favourite game!You are pleased to do so if you like.
ZitatRight.The hand holding them belongs to Kathy ;-)hmm... the jeans and the belly too, i suppose? ::) ;D
How can you know? ;-)
hmm, maybe i'm psychic...? ::) (heresy, heresy!!! burn the heretic!)*g* Don't worry my friend, you're not guilty of the heresy of psi... for it's not my jeans and belly, but Megan's ;-)
(...)describing a Minor House-Knight's entourage. We didn't yet decide which House that should be, that's open to discussion.instead of Carnivaler's Guild:
The entourage is also open to discussion (;-)), but here's our proposal:
- Minor House's Knight
- Hironem (another alien would be nice)
- a member of the Carnivaler's Guild
Azz, es wäre cool, wenn du dir nochmal ein paar Gedanken zu den Spielwerten machen könntest, dann können wir die Sache recht zügig angehen.