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Ein:
Nach Thalamus habe ich da in Talislanta Elfen:


--- Zitat ---Ariane: Slender, tall, onyx skin, white hair, pointed ears, silver eyes.  Aloof, quiet, passive. Follows the mystical arts of transascendancy, wherein they can maintain awareness of all their past incarnations. Can meditate and communicate with stones, trees, the wind, pretty much anything. Record their thoughts and feelings in purple stones called "tamar". Only eat ripened fruits, because they have no wish to harm an incarnating lifeform. Use smooth, flat maces of white wood and purple stone, and arrows tipped with same. Live in a maze-like city formed from a single huge piece of purple stone. Fairly isolationist, although they send out "Druas" (Seekers) to gather experiences of the world on their tamar, these then being taken to a huge tamar at the center of their maze-city, where they are stored for the populace to access. Long-lived.

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Mordekar:

--- Zitat von: Ein am 20.01.2005 | 16:42 ---Nach Thalamus habe ich da in Talislanta Elfen:


--- Zitat ---Ariane: Slender, tall, onyx skin, white hair, pointed ears, silver eyes.  Aloof, quiet, passive. Follows the mystical arts of transascendancy, wherein they can maintain awareness of all their past incarnations. Can meditate and communicate with stones, trees, the wind, pretty much anything. Record their thoughts and feelings in purple stones called "tamar". Only eat ripened fruits, because they have no wish to harm an incarnating lifeform. Use smooth, flat maces of white wood and purple stone, and arrows tipped with same. Live in a maze-like city formed from a single huge piece of purple stone. Fairly isolationist, although they send out "Druas" (Seekers) to gather experiences of the world on their tamar, these then being taken to a huge tamar at the center of their maze-city, where they are stored for the populace to access. Long-lived.

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Es redet wie ein Elf, es stinkt wie ein Elf, es sieht fast so aus wie ein Elf...
für mich nah genug dran um die Behauptung ad absurdum zu führen.

Wawoozle:
:)
http://www.rpg.net/forums/phorum/pf/read.php?f=5&i=117846&loc=0&t=117846


--- Zitat ---Other genres have the Elf-types as well. Star Trek has the Vulcans, complete with pointy ears, long lifespan, mystical culture, and know more about the universe than humans.

Babylon 5 has the Minbari, who although lack pointed ears, do have a mystical culture, longer lifespan, and know more about the universe than humans.

Heck, even Yoda is an elf! He's short, got pointy ears, is VERY mystical, has a long lifespan, and knows more about the universe than humans.

These are essentially Elves by another name. They fill the same storytelling niche.

Frankly, I'm sick of Tolkein-esque Teutonic-based Fantasy (note, I'm not sick of Tolkein himself, I love Tolkein). Even ones that try to be different. I've read lots of books and played in lots of games that tried to be "different" from Tolkein by changing some detail here or there. Orc are intelligent. Elves are technological. Blah blah blah whatever. They're still using Tolkein as a starting point.

I prefer my fantasy to be original. I like Clark Ashton Smith's Zothique, Conan, Skyrealms of Jorune, Talislanta, El Hazard, and Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind for these reasons. They are unique, they don't play on stereotypes as much (well, at least they play on a whole different set of stereotypes).

My current fantasy campaign is a mix of Ruin Explorers, El Hazard, and Nausicaa. There are no Tolkein fantasy stereotypes to be seen. Well, the Jaki monster-men come pretty close to Orcs, but you've got to have a bad guy, right?
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Waren das bei Talislanta nicht die Cymrilian, die im Endeffekt Elfen unter anderem Namen waren (oder schmeiß ich das schon wieder alles durcheinander?). Zumindest fand ich die Behauptung immer etwas sehr gewagt...

Catweazle:
@Ein und Mordekar: ja, Talislanta hat Elfen. Und Zwerge. Und wahrscheinlich auch Hobbits. Sie heißen anders, sie verhalten sich anders, sie haben eine andere Geschichte und sie sehen anders aus, aber irgendwie entdeckt man sie doch. Ja selbst in Vampire findet man in den Salubri einen Clan, der den Zweck der Elfen ganz gut erfüllt und die World of Darkness bietet mit den Faeries natürlich noch direktere Abkömmlinge. Fading-Suns: die Obun. etc. etc.

Aber: selbst wenn die Macher die klassischen Elfen Tolkiens eingebaut hätten, könnten die Macher von Talislanta immer noch sagen: "no horses", "no evil bad super-entity", "molusks as pcs", "no elf-human-dwarf alliance against evil superraces from hell".

Dennoch habt ihr Recht: der Spruch "still no elves" ist hoch gegriffen und nicht ganz wahr. Zustimmung. Ich werde dennoch weiter mit diesem Spruch für Talislanta werben, denn: Talislanta ist keine Tolkien-Welt. Viel weniger als jedes andere Fantasy-System, das ich kenne. Talislanta hat seinen Job, etwas eigenes zu erfinden gut gemacht. Da verzeihe ich auch mal die Schwäche mit den Ariane, ganz sicher von den Elfen inspiriert sind.

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